And if you have depression??? My next question is maybe an obvious one, but what would happen if you didnt have a self-appointed expert on you and what you should be doing jump down your throat about all of your life choices or give you the silent treatment in your life at all? This! It can sometimes be really helpful to challenge yourself, whether thats to exercise more or read more or keep things cleaner around the house. Does he want you to be happy and comfortable in your own body; or is he looking for A Girlfriend Who Matches The Public Beauty Ideal? My ironclad rule now is to keep distance from people who respond to this thing you do hurts me with anything but, Im so sorry, are you okay? I guarantee you it will only get worse. On time! 2. And I know it takes me less effort to make myself presentable for people coming over to visit me, than it does to get out of the house. You are more than good enough you are wonderful, no matter what you are doing, what choices youve made today. You can also use the online chat. In another car. Openly and blatantly. He likes the you in his head that he wants to shape you into being. The BF sounds like he is familiar territory to you, treating you w/ the disregard & disrespect that as a child you were taught was your due. This has gotten him in trouble a few times. And throughout this time, avoid distractions such as social media. What kind of wording do you want me to use? As I was reading the original letter, I was thinking that the question ought to be how to break up with him. (But again, I do think its an excellent tool to help evaluate a relationship.). 3. First, lets consider the signs youll notice when your boyfriend stops making an effort. Hindsight, sigh. Back in the dim times, when I was young and dewy and dinosaurs still roamed the planet, and I was married to my starter husband, I was unhappy with our relationship. I agree. A. Self improvement (vs self-care, self-discovery, living life with acceptance) involves believing something is wrong with you B. Yeah, dealing with a partners illness isnt FUN, but as you say yourself its part of the package. And when he lost a bunch of weight as a side effect of a new medication, suddenly all of his insecurities about it were transferred to passive-aggressively fatshaming me. He got that. You dont need fixing, LW. 1) It really doesnt appear to be helping you (being berated and controlled is bad for humans) Wow, what a trainwreck/mindfuck. LW, I dont think your bf loves you for you. I hope you get out much faster than I was able to. They are not your child who needs to be emotionally spanked. I mention all of this because I remember thinking to myself a lot, during that time, Eh, this is fine. If you decide that its not, then break up with him and move on. But I know we never get the whole story with these letters. I think this list is a great idea! My partner had to learn to adjust to a massive change in our relationship and in me. But if he does choose to be a relationship with you, he IS obligated not to be a condescending asshole about it. So if your partner was showing signs of depression themselves, (you know the signs) that would be a reasonable reaction. Release your grip and be open to any possibility in your relationship. Emotion or relationship conversations have to start with establishing a logical framework of the situation that makes sense to him; if hes confused, he clams up in great distress. I have found a form of exercise that it tremendously good for me: I have an exercise bike that you can hook up to a tablet and plan a route on Google Streetview. 1. We both loved science fiction. If you give him space, make yourself busy and happy. He isnt attempting to start any type of dialogue at all! Alas, LWs BF appears to be one of them. You also have the feeling that something must be wrong between you two because it feels like there are more bad days than good ones lately. What would you like me to do or say? We will come times ask specifics if I see you doing X or Y would you like me to say or do anything?, We will also talk about our fears: I dont want to come across as a nagging partner or like Im your mom, so Im comfortable saying this, but only once.. Thanks for this post, Captain and LW. At the beginning of the relationship were they curious if you were hanging out with other guys vs. just girls? Honestly its tough. It is about him. Is there a chance he will realize that the moods are part of the package, and something Im trying to work on gradually, not all at once? We are high maintenance and needy, its all caused by our hormones (and that somehow makes it funny/unimportant), we are dismal and pathetic. Make sure your tone of voice and body language are completely neutral, because if they arent, what you say wont come across as simply wanting information but instead will seem like an attack on his character which could lead you nowhere at all. Heres some signs your relationship is over in all but name and Facebook status: It may seem like a good thing if you and your man never fight, but take it from a dude I never want to be wrong. Hell get mad if he thinks that Im not exercising often enough, or if I stop doing as many good things like eating veggies and working out, while hes out of town. (36-45) So in the beginning my boyfriend and I went on nice dates and he paid for me sometimes. If you suggest doing something with him or if he is the one to bring it up, he will always say maybe. Oh god, my parents did that toothey made fun of my (snack) food choices all the time, which was severely hypocritical as they were the ones who taught me that that behavior was absolutely not okay (when directed towards an adult). If hes not pulling his weight, then this is an attempt to manipulate you into doing all the work. If you have the energy and inclination to push yourself, get on with your bad self, but thats extra credit. Even though I cant even do hosting as much as Id like and my home is a bit of a mess. To be honest, I almost wonder if he said that because he felt he needed to say something (because maybe peanut-butter and chocolate chip sandwiches arent the most common meal and sometimes its hard not to comment on that?) you arent going to get better if he keeps breathing down your neck.. We help each other a ton: I carry the groceries and he holds me and listens when I need it. Your dreams for the future have taken a back seat. I hope that your boyfriend is willing to listen, and that he can eventually be supportive in the way that *you need him to be. This right here: to the point that he says its the stupidest thing hes ever heard is verbal abuse. He used to love visiting your family, friends and all the places you like going to. You wish your boyfriend was as attentive and loving as he was at the beginning of your relationship. God, Im such a pathetic LOSER! And cue the tears and stress eating and whatever other bad depression habits you thought youd gotten under control. Or, if you can handle it, let them know that you think your friendship has run its course because you are at two different points in life. Gastrointestinal distress. Maybe the simplest (and best, to be completely honest with you about how Im feeling about this dude) answer is:You dont make each other happy anymore, and youd both be happier if you ended it and found someone more compatible. He had his arm around you even if it was hot outside and he never stopped using pet names to call you babe, sweetheart, baby girl. When a relationship is 50/50 on decisions (yes, you have equal say!) Getting angry at the depressed partner is not good, even among bad choices. I have one word for you, LW. He says I'm too negative and I have no friends and I'm not self sufficient. We both are very logic- and reason-focused people, That bit in particular sounds so much like my ex-husband. Look, Im sure there are people out there who respond to tough love or whatever bullshit he thinks he is doing, but frankly, Ive never met someone struggling with depression and low self-esteem who did. Like theyd be SO PERFECT IF THEY DID A B AND C. Unfortunately, the reality is that they are not there. Designate a time to have a conversation just the two of you. Its not that men suddenly become secretive when they lose interest in their relationship, its that men are not by nature sharers of information in the same way females are. He is avoiding it. You know that cartoon with godzilla and the hornets and the nope-ing retreat back to the sea. I found it odd at first that my marriage broke up after I got to feeling better through therapy (by my measure and my therapists.) And you know what? In any case what was most helpful to me when I was trying to decide what to do about my then bf monitoring my exercise and how I acted and what I wore, was look at those things and all the other things we did together (which by that point was not much) and ask if this person seemed to like me. He assumes you want to understand things as exhaustively as he wants to, so (if you have asked about a thing, like say directions or a computer how-to) he goes ON and ON into tiny details unless you stop him. You still get to decide whether you like him. Go to a concert and it doesnt have to be Jay-Z and Beyonce. Invoking logic by name in a discussion. This boyfriend sounds a little like my mother, and finances have forced me to live with the rents for a bit, so I appreciate the tips and scripts Ive read here. Congratulations on all the work you have done and everything you have accomplished. By the time our relationship came to an end, we fought about the stupidest things, because we were both really fighting over who got to decide how I behaved. I just want to say something about this part of the Captains advice: However, if it helps you have the conversation, invoke your therapist. Whose fing body is it anyway, buddy? What were his biggest complaints about you during this time period where he stopped trying so hard anymore? (Why cant the government just ask married or not married? *nodnod* Your boyfriend should be treating you with love and compassion, not telling you your efforts are Not Good Enough (seriously, WTF?!). I find that when one person is overly invested in helping someone else, its often an indicator that they have their own issues which theyre trying to feel better about. He is like the fucking human incarnation of depression. Telling me I am not being logical. Replace depression with cancer, and see what Im talking about. Relax. Neither he or my Dad told me about their doubts until I was well established and was making money, by which time their initial suspicions were funny stories, not immensely damaging and potentially hindering my progress. All he wanted to do was sit and do . And hey, when you want to use him as a sounding board for something, maybe this reminder will help: Asking advice or needing help with one thing isnt an invitation for advice about everything. Or maybe his own shortcomings as a helper? This is a guy who shuts down when hes mad. A lot of the time, people feel like they need a Big Serious Reason (like I caught him bonking my sister or he burned my entire book collection then peed on the ashes) to dump someone. When I left my abusive family? YES! like being unable to control yourself is something to be proud of. Just looking at those two sentences beside each other without anything else made me realize how ridiculous they sound. I focus on how each time he does so, its a good thing he is doing, and I am proud of him for it. Exercise doesnt have to hurt to be effective. Sometimes it feels like Im absorbing the sun like a reptile or a solar panel. Dating you is a privilege you get to grant people, not a burden someone is doing you the favour of shouldering. If he realizes how much fun his girlfriend is and misses the way she used to make him laugh all the time, hell come crawling back to you. Then perhaps from there they can move towards leaving. Listen to Leah Robins and the Captain if he loves you, he will work with you, and you will be able to laugh together even during the darkest moments of your lives. Its always so much easier to see things from an objective perspective when one is looking in from the outside. The LW stops loving him You know the fight that led to the end of our relationship? He finally stopped when I was a teenager and I said something along the lines of it was a good thing I wasnt as sensitive about food as many teen girls, otherwise such comments could send me towards anorexia. Be honest about how you feel. Is it because youve neglected a task you said youd do? Please think about this carefully. He wants LW to do these things so he doesnt have to deal with depressed LW (he thinks). Love is out there girls, just make sure you are attentive and smart when it comes to a long distance roller coaster ride. Let me restate, with emphasis: Getting angry at the depressed partner is not good. . 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