For an Early Influence, I would pick Cab Calloway or The Ravens. Nina Simone Lloyd Price: 4/10 Booker T. and the M.G.s John Lee Hooker: 8/10 Cheap Trick: 6/10 David Bowie In a word, no. CCR: 9/10 Frankie Lymon and the Teenagers 7/10 = Solid Picks Gene Pitney: 5/10 225. Tier 1 - Nina Simone, Bon Jovi, Journey, Joan Baez Lynyrd Skynyrd: 8/10 Bob Seger Nine Inch Nails-4, Posted by Plebian on Monday, 03/2/2020 @ 02:11am, what i think the 2020 inductees should be in: Sorry but the Sex Pistols are way overrated. HARDLY !! 6. Bill Walton. Posted by Andrew on Thursday, 10/31/2013 @ 17:40pm, We need a space at the top for the Based God. Black Sabbath and Queen again. He certainly beats U2 and Bruce Springsteen in the I&I categories. Jo Jo White, 108. I could have sworn it was the other way around. Run-D.M.C. It started out as 12 and then multiples of 12 but you have had several yeas of new inductees since then. That's almost obscene! 1 bestselling book around the premise in 2009.. Posted by Roy on Thursday, 04/28/2016 @ 05:27am. 1995 Van Morrison: 10/10 The Platters: 8/10 214. Steve Miller: Level 1, Posted by SotN on Friday, 12/18/2015 @ 03:31am. 35. Lastly, here are some of my favorite films: You were being facetious, were you not? 220. The people who made a name IN Rock and Roll. I was not alive for either group's heyday, so I can't speak to their innovation upon their arrival on the music scene. Nirvana: 10/10 you like simmons a lot. Should have been first ballot: Genesis, Black Sabbath, Queen. Favorite inductee outside of the U.S. and the U.K.? Bo Diddley Def Leppard I thought the concept was even multiples of 12. Her solo career wasn't any more impactful than any of the other artists on Level 1. 134. "Going to a Go-Go" The Rolling Stones, Phil Collins, The Hags, and Secret Affair. The Dave Clark Five 57. There are many, many 2000s and '10s era bands that are more engaging. 2000 But he's not better than Magic, Kareem, Bird, Shaq, Kobe, Duncan. move to 3: 5/10 = Average/Borderline astrodog brings up a reasonable point about Elvis Costello, especially in his comparison to The Pretenders. Sex Pistols 7. 6. Good point, Bill G. Let's also remember Percy Mayfield's 1950 blues classic Please Send Me Someone to Love, with its plea for tolerance and unity among the peoples of the world. Righteous Brothers: 7/10 Green Day: 9/10 10/10 = Immortals, Legends & Icons Parliament - Funkadelic: 10/10 Almost all of their hits were self-written, making them unique among Motown acts. Johnny Cash: 10/10 If Liny Wray was inducted, he would be on four. 39. Heart- 4 The O'Jays Absolutely nothing you can learn from a song that can't already be ascertained from a documentary or history lecture. 9/10 = All Time Greats Hell, when it comes time for kanye are we really gonna say his mark isn't bigger than say the who (who i love)? Miles Davis (Level 2) Righteous Brothers: 7/10 Lovin' Spoonful Public Enemy (lower 2nd) RHCP: 9/10 Because of the lamestream press' overhype of the Pistols, several people actually think they started punk rock, which of course they didn't. YOU TELL ME !!! Players who most likely are now on the Pyramid, but Simmons has not confirmed: i believe he mentioned melo is right ahead of english/dantley. What he has is an inflated reputation. For anyone else that wants to create a pyramid for this year's nominations here is a format for everyone to follow in order to create some structure follow this format. 2016 26. I'd rather they be a 3, but a lot of those 3s are untouchable. So, since I've had some free time, I took it upon myself to update the original Hall of Fame Pyramid and figured I'd share. I was reviewing a post which I had written some time ago. this is a statement of fact, no judgement involved. Bernard King, 66. Bill Withers: 6/10 Posted by Nick Deep Purple- 4 "Yester Love" Gerald Wilson & His Orchestra. The Dells: 5/10 Questions 6 &7 are differnet type of questions. 201. 191. Donovan Kingdom of Heaven Most snubbed before finally inducted: Hall and Oates. Fats Domino should be moved up four rows. Since there are 221 as of now, two or three more should be promoted to level 5 (and more to the other levels), if only to maintain the proportions. Posted by Zach on Thursday, 01/29/2015 @ 23:40pm, Posted by Greg on Wednesday, 04/8/2015 @ 15:25pm, The Pyramid Levels. b) every metal band post-1983 is influenced by them. Most civilized: Cat, Smokey, Bruce 82. SEE FOR YOURSELF !! T.Rex-Level 3 136. 36. Posted by Bill G on Sunday, 07/28/2019 @ 00:36am, Since the lower rungs no longer reflect multiples of 12, a couple more artists should move up to that top rung and give us even multiples of 13, 14, or 15, whatever it would be up to by now. 20. Todd Rundgren: 6/10 They are a 2 at best. Joe Dumars. I've hated Young's music since my teen years, when I was in my rockist phase (Rather odd saying that, considering Young is a rockist fave). 14. There's no way he's a bigger deal than Cream, The Band, The Doors, Black Sabbath, The Police, Jerry Lee Lewis, CSN, Metallica or Aerosmith. The Supremes Cat Stevens Posted by Jason Voigt on Monday, 09/24/2018 @ 16:47pm. Like everyone else, there's a few changes I would make. "Can You Love a Poor Boy" Bobby Vee, Softones, Gil Bernal, Ronnie Walker. "Mickey's Monkey" Mother's Finest, Martha and the Vandellas, The Supremes, The Hollies, The Young Rascals, John Mellencamp, Lou Christie, Cannibal & the Headhunters, The C.A.Quintet, The Defenders, Chris Catena, The Sugar Beats, The Mac Truque. 9. 6. In the case of Ray Charles, the musical influence he had is so massively widespread across multiple genres, so well documented, and seemingly so obvious to the ears of anybody with half a musical ear who takes the time to actually listen to what popular music sounded like before he began having hits and what it sounded like after those hits; that your statement that you "don't see the influence" marks you as either too historically uneducated or too biased by your tastes to really be a serious participant in evaluating such topics of discussion. Neil Young: 10/10 Tier 4 is their place. T. Rex (Level 2) I'll concede they're important enough to be in the hall, but ranking them higher than the Doors, Grateful Dead, Zappa, or even Jefferson Airplane (a possible influence) is ridiculous. Duran Duran (Level 1 or 2) Eddie Cochran: 9/10 -the Miracles, the Comets, the Midnighters.. barring them, probably the Dave Clark Five and the Ventures Pat Benatar 49. The Book of Basketball: The NBA According to The Sports Guy. Throw in Dirk's career numbers which are amazing when you look at them and he belongs in this spot. 184. Most mean inductee? Skip to primary content. For new additions (NOT New Edition) to Level 5, I nominate Aerosmith, and either Aretha Franklin or Michael Jackson. 1989 The Ink Spots 204. Your favorite inductees (You can pick at least 7) Eddie Cochran Fats Domino. 91. Sometimes he wasn't good enough. Bon Jovi, Posted by Joe on Tuesday, 04/27/2021 @ 05:25am. To tell you the truth, outside of 1950s rock 'n roll (which I will love to my dying days) and some later eras/genres of rock 'n roll, I'm growing increasingly bored with rock 'n roll music. Foo Fighters: 8/10 "Yester Love" Gerald Wilson & His Orchestra Posted by Donovan on Tuesday, 10/21/2014 @ 23:03pm, move to 4: AC/DC: 9/10 The Kinks: 10/10 The Moody Blues 121. Otis Redding -Probably the first class, 1986 Depeche Mode-1 Ritchie Valens Hakeem Olajuwon, 11. Posted by Tommy Wimmer on Monday, 09/24/2018 @ 01:42am. Stevie Wonder. N.W.A: Level 2 (tough call, but Public Enemy is at the lowest part of 3, and they're about even, though PE had longer success) 2. Most influential besides The Beatles, Elvis, and Chuck Berry: Bob Dylan, The Who, The Rolling Stones, Cream, Creedence Clearwater Revival, James Brown & The Famous Flames, Buddy Holly & The Crickets, Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin, Sam Cooke, The Stooges. The Hollies -You can place as many artists as you want at each level, however each level must have equal to more of the amount of artists than the level before it (For example: Level 1 can have 1 artist, Level 2 can have 3 artists, Level 3 can then have 3 artists also, but Level 4 can't have 2 or less, but it can have 3 or more. Lennon had one brilliant record (his first real solo record) and one decent one (the overrated 'Imagine'), and then some good songs sprinkled amidst a lot of filler and crap. It would only make sense, since the next 4 are not perfect multiples of 12 anymore. Level 5 . All-Star Game Selections by Player; All-NBA and All-NBA Team Selections by Player; All-Defensive Team Selections by Player; Referee Awards. 209. DarinRG, if you've ever seen "An Evening With Kevin Smith" where he describes his trip to Prince's home, it's epic. 219. My occasional communication efforts within this forum is generally framed around acknowledging my own biases and attempting to subvert them for more rationale dialog. Joni Mitchell 200. N.W.A 107. Connie Hawkins, 99. Ramones Posted by Gassman on Thursday, 10/31/2013 @ 11:28am. MVP Offline Posts: 9456. N.W.A Posted by shrek on Friday, 01/11/2019 @ 20:45pm. Their overwhelming commercial success then? Demote. " Best outside US and UK: If Joni Mitchell and Neil Young still count as Canadian, I'm going with them. Stevie Ray Vaughan and Double Trouble The Beach Boys 5 2018 "5)Elvis Costello-Alison, and I cannot name another song. Level 4 And from 2017: T. Rex: 7/10 163. The Small Faces/Faces, The Hollies, and The Ventures 218. The Cars You may wonder why I continue posting on FRL after admitting to my disenchanted with most rock music. The Paul Butterfield Blues Band: 3/10 When you look at it this way, it's not an especially inspired class, is it? Lowest tier. The Blues Brothers "Nowhere To Go- Kanye West (as the basis of his song "About An Angel"), Beanie Sigel (as "Got Nowhere"), Freeway Kevin McHale, 40. "From Head to Toe" Elvis Costello, Chris Clark on Thursday, 05/20/2021 @ 02:05am. Ricky Nelson I'm going to pull a Simmons here and admit that I swapped Kidd and Payton because a washed-up Payton barely played for the '06 Heat that won a title while Kidd was actually important to the '11 Mavs. Depeche Mode (Level 2) Metallica also, but stance is just that -stance. Biggest botch Bob Cousy, 23. C'mon time to add class of 2017 in pyramid: Pearl Jam,Journey,ELO,Joan Baez,Yes and 2Pac. Either the music stands up or it doesn't." Chicago: Level 2 "Oh Be My Love"- Barbara Lewis, The Supremes, Barbara McNair. Care to post it here? The Who: 10/10 Blondie: 8/10 Donna Summer: 8/10 5/10 = Average/Borderline "Got A Job" The Marcels It's fine. For some reason they never get as much credit as they deserve (especially when compared to other Motown artists like Marvin Gaye, The Supremes and The Temptations). Janis Joplin how NBA Hall of Fame inductees should be chosen but how the institution must be reshaped from the ground up, the result being the Pyramid: Simmons's one-of-a-kind five-level shrine to the ninety-six greatest players in the history of pro Posted by Mike on Tuesday, 11/29/2016 @ 05:08am, Pearl Jam - level 3 The Cure: 8/10 Replace "Were they just dominant at times?" Cheap Trick "I Gotta Dance to Keep From Crying" The Who, Jimmy James. The Animals He's slightly ahead of Scottie because Wade took over the 2006 Finals and Scottie never really managed to be that guy - even in '94 when he finished 3rd in the MVP voting. From 2016: Updated, thanks! 2012 Any thoughts? They have reached such a high level of popularity & respect. This website really needs to update the rock hall pyramid. Miles Davis 196. I assumed you meant the bottom, but I don't wanna put words in your mouth. 4/10 = Marginal Nina Simone (Level 2) I agree Trent and the gang have proven to be one of the staples in not just 90s rock, but music in general. nine inch nails - 2 or 3 Gene Vincent (and the Blue Caps) We could spend the rest of this post going in circles on him. 151. Earth, Wind and Fire Crosby, Stills & Nash (Level 2) 54. 3/27 Downloaded from qualifiedplanadvisors.dev.trozzolo.com on by @guest high school, college, the Olympics & the National Basketball Association. "Looks like this has been updated. They both were a lot closer to the rock world than Ray Charles was during the bulk of their careers. The Cars Did they have transcendent songs and albums or memorable moments? This hierarchy is useful when discussing future Hall of Famers and trying to determine where they might fit in amongst rock royalty (should Nirvana be on Level 3? How Far Can This Version of James Harden Take the Sixers? Ike and Tina Turner 78. 1989 The Soul Stirrers Quietest: Musically, James Taylor. KING, Posted by KING on Monday, 06/29/2015 @ 01:24am. Yes, they're called idiots (just like the ~2% that didn't vote for Cobb, ~5% of voters that didn't vote for Ruth and Wagner, ~9% of voters that didn't vote for Mathewson and ~16% of voters that didn't vote for Johnson, or the idiots that took three years to vote in DiMaggio). NIN: 9/10 A half-century ago, Pink Floyd unleashed a classic that still lingers on the Billboard charts and in college dorms to this day. Posted by Robert Henry on Tuesday, 05/31/2016 @ 13:51pm. Clyde McPhatter 71. 3. I'm working on a list of my least favorite artists and will include commentary for each choice. Frank Zappa Probably Patti Smith, though any of the acts that had one legendary hit (7 that's all) could also be placed here. 13. Dusty Springfield: 8/10 I don't have a good reason to not have Westbrook here. Not quite sure. Aretha Franklin Not many changes to make. 112. Sex Pistols (Level 3) You want to know about influence? Jay-Z -Level 3 My hatred of him is well documented, but I objectively can't see him as anything more than a lower-tier Bob Dylan. Journey During the end of 2006 and the early part of 2007, I was suffering from a terrible depression that led me to start thinking about suicide.All Around that time I was talking to some people on a few forums about my problems. Eminem (Level 4) Marvin Gaye: 10/10 Then he takes it further by completely reevaluating not only how NBA Hall of Fame inductees should be chosen but how the institution must be reshaped from the ground up, the result being the Pyramid: Simmons's one-of-a-kind five-level shrine P.S. The guy's impact has been very strongly compared to Picasso i really have a hard time seeing him not being capable of being a 5 even if he's blacklisted by the hall for years. The luxury of time is that it dispenses with the nonsense, the hipsterism, the favoritism, and leaves the music to stand on its own. Kawhi's been great for three seasons. Favorite induction year? The Cars- 3 Talented as hell, but weird as hell. Thank you. Anybody remember songs like "Keep On Pushing", "Choice Of Colors", and "People Get Ready" ? Most nicest inductee? King Is there anyone not in the Hall who could be a 4? Miles Davis (Level 2) 141. I like a lot of them. Monty Python's Life of Brian Kareem, 3. Blondie Playing off the NBAs dramatic changes during the past decade, Bill uses new commentary and fresh interviews with players and top media members to determine how the league has evolved and where its headed. "Baby Baby Don't Cry" Gerald Wilson and His Orchestra, Projekt. Can't see any update yet. 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